tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post2360309889658074003..comments2023-06-01T21:15:57.354-11:00Comments on The H Does NOT Stand For Habs: Prelude To a Trade?J.T.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00012075493503316318noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-1286518650951041972009-10-07T11:07:11.732-11:002009-10-07T11:07:11.732-11:00yes they did and how brilliant were those decision...yes they did and how brilliant were those decisions...that's the point<br /><br />two points, say hi to the straight linepfhabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05116906615296671918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-63419758661535352142009-10-06T11:13:10.858-11:002009-10-06T11:13:10.858-11:00Montreal DID trade everyone you listed except Lafl...Montreal DID trade everyone you listed except Lafleur.Andrew Berkshirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953075568931375583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-46040531558840117772009-10-06T08:32:24.578-11:002009-10-06T08:32:24.578-11:00J.T.
-no idea how old you are nor how much you...J.T.<br /><br />-no idea how old you are nor how much you've read of the CH teams of the past...if we traded talented players because of character flaws and attitude we would have jetisoned; Keane, Corson, Chelios, Roy, Lafleur and a pile of others<br /><br />they get paid to perform on the ice not be good marriage material for your daughter, sister etc<br /><br />yes SK needs some maturity and I'm sure he'll get it but to trade him as a knee jerk reaction because he doesn't fit an apple polisher view of the world (Corey trading Chelios) or to get rid of a bad seed (Gainey trading Riberio)is foolish if the ultimate goal is to win games<br /><br />as for his teammates don't kid yourself there are enough vets to kick his ass into line and any negative influence is minimal nothwithstanding Martin's sacrosanc touchie feelie sessions<br /><br />but I expect Bob to foldpfhabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05116906615296671918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-3042190817312522762009-10-06T02:47:25.117-11:002009-10-06T02:47:25.117-11:00oh sergei, i was so very infatuated with him. it&...oh sergei, i was so very infatuated with him. it's clear the kid's got an attitude problem, but on the ice, that was sort of charming- a little swagger isn't entirely useless in a young player. unfortunately, it's become too much swagger and too little sense. what concerns me is the impact of this whole sideshow on his trade value. now that he's seen as difficult, now that other gms think bob is under pressure to lose the kid, the habs might find themselves getting lower offers than they might have otherwise. i only hope that gainey doesn't rush it- sergei's not golden, but he's got value, and bob <i>can</i> afford to wait for a useful offer here.Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09823553556651831315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-52352301109228267032009-10-05T21:07:39.058-11:002009-10-05T21:07:39.058-11:00@Raphael: I agree, any GM would see Kostitsyn'...@Raphael: I agree, any GM would see Kostitsyn's "contrition" as reeking of BS. BUT, if he goes to Hamilton and proves he can put up a lot of points, he'll increase his trade value regardless. There are always GMs who salivate at the thought of adding talent, and are willing to overlook character flaws to get it.<br /><br />@Andrew: I think the Mathieu Carle trade request was debunked as a myth last year. Carle himself and his agent have denied it publicly, and the "news" itself seemed to originate on a couple of internet speculation sites.J.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00012075493503316318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-31230215237318688882009-10-05T16:23:17.980-11:002009-10-05T16:23:17.980-11:00Sergei may mature, like Chris Pronger did, and bec...Sergei may mature, like Chris Pronger did, and become a star or he may party too much, like Jacques Richard did, and end up wasting his talent.<br /><br />Good luck Bob in trying to figure out which way Sergei will go.<br /><br />A little background on Pronger and Richard. <br /><br />Pronger struggled during his first few seasons in Hartford because of lax training and a few minor run-ins with the law. It wasn't until he went to St Louis and Mike Keenan got a hold of him that he learned the importance of hard work. His career took off after that.<br /><br />The Atlanta Flames made Richard the second overall pick in 1972 believing he had the potential to be the next Lafleur. Most seasons he only put up 30 points or so because he partied too much. However, there was one season where he achieved his potential. In 1980/81 he cleaned up his act and scored over 50 goals and over 100 points for Quebec. Unfortunately, he went back to his old ways the next season and had only a few more 30 point years in the NHL.DBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08774116563390591423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-9110066940321392752009-10-05T15:19:10.989-11:002009-10-05T15:19:10.989-11:00I think you're right the the strongest possibi...I think you're right the the strongest possibility is that he'll be traded after playing a few games in the minors, but I'm not so sure that it's as concrete as many think.<br /><br />Mathieu Carle did nearly the same exact thing, with even less success at the pro level to use as leverage, and he's still with the organization. It's entirely possible that Sergei could stick with the Canadiens.Andrew Berkshirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953075568931375583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-48950976190077828922009-10-05T15:00:52.484-11:002009-10-05T15:00:52.484-11:00On Cyberpresse's article on the matter I found...On Cyberpresse's article on the matter I found this bit quite revealing: <br /><br />"Kostitsyn devait toucher un salaire de 585 000 $ avec le Canadien, salaire auquel s'ajoutent des primes potentielles de 265 000 $.<br /><br />Avec les Bulldogs, il touchera un salaire de 65 000 $."<br /><br />For those who don't speak French, basically it says that Kostitsyn's salary with the habs is half a million give or take a couple of bonuses and with Hamilton it's 65 000$. <br /><br />For me this might just be the crux of Kostitsyn's protest....<br /><br />Also, with all that's been written on Kostitsyn, I can't believe a sane GM somewhere would be daft enough to *not see a couple of games in Hamilton and apparent contrition as anything other than pure BS. <br /><br />...Of course, there are always those "special cases" across the league *cough* -Islanders *cough* *cough*...Raphaël P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12202068893625886235noreply@blogger.com