tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post4082232214529278147..comments2023-06-01T21:15:57.354-11:00Comments on The H Does NOT Stand For Habs: Aftermath: Stupid Is As Stupid DoesJ.T.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00012075493503316318noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-81124635411006025712011-01-27T16:51:41.999-11:002011-01-27T16:51:41.999-11:00His puck skill is unmatched by anyone on the team....His puck skill is unmatched by anyone on the team. What team are you watching? <br /><br />Nobody has been able to carry the puck and settle in the offensive zone. I think you mean the corner before either losing it or passing it back to no body in particular. <br /><br />Gomez has skill and potential, he's just not performing and that is a serious problem. Each year he gets worse and his point production is going down to unacceptable levels. He will have to stay for the rest of this year but has to go before this team can improve. Bite the bullet and do it before next season. Scotty will live like a king in Hamilton. He may even regain his scoring touch. Boyd has 14 goals in 17 games. Maybe Scotty can get 20 again, who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-43619630638761163442011-01-27T15:17:18.252-11:002011-01-27T15:17:18.252-11:00Gomez is defensively responsible. He has a team l...Gomez is defensively responsible. He has a team leading -9!<br /><br />Darche and DD with far less playing time have contributed far more offensively than Gomez. If playing time was based on merit Gomez would be sitting in the press box. I can only guess his playing time is politically based rather than merit based. Management can't look bad on both the Gomez deal and Eller deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-61294020598395468812011-01-27T13:34:40.108-11:002011-01-27T13:34:40.108-11:00Gomez is playing like a 1-2 million dollar player....Gomez is playing like a 1-2 million dollar player. Krejci, Bergeron and Plekanec are 4-5 million dollar players. If Gomez was as good as those three that would be alright but he's not. He is definitely Reddenesk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-48532589930024100922011-01-27T10:12:07.431-11:002011-01-27T10:12:07.431-11:00I also disagree with all the Gomez bashing. It'...I also disagree with all the Gomez bashing. It's his salary you all hate. He's a 5 mill player with and 8 mill salary. He should be a point per game player, but we play a very defensive style. His puck skill is un-matched on this team by anyone. he's fast and defensively responsible. There are other 7-8 mill players who contribute less in this league.....you must absorb them with the rest of the team. Darche + Gomez equals 8.5 mill or 4.75 each. Not so bad now.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-48068119613311717962011-01-27T09:55:37.151-11:002011-01-27T09:55:37.151-11:00I also disagree with all the Gomez bashing. Althou...I also disagree with all the Gomez bashing. Although, I would love if he was more productive points wise, his puck skills and speed cannot be replaced by anyone one our team. Nobody has been able to bring the puck up the ice and settle in the other teams zone on a constant basis. No one. Everyone is obsessed with his salary which was signed 4 years ago by Sather. B*tch about his stupid penalties if you want, his teammates should take care of that. He's a 5 million player who was given an 8 million contract.Habimus-Maximusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-28785766832062026542011-01-27T06:53:54.482-11:002011-01-27T06:53:54.482-11:00Gomez is untradeable, and I don't think he'...Gomez is untradeable, and I don't think he's "Redden" bad to be sent to the minors. The sooner hab fans accept that, the less they will suffer. What I hope is that Martin shrinks Gomez' ice time ala Drury, and give Desharnais a chance. What the Habs need is a good vet scoring winger with size to play with Pacs and DD, and hope that Andrei gets back to form.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-41231894080455653402011-01-26T08:59:12.613-11:002011-01-26T08:59:12.613-11:00It's funny but I don't agree with all the ...It's funny but I don't agree with all the bashing of Gomez. I actually think he's a good NHL hockey player that has speed and great passing abilities.<br />Of course he is making too much money. And he should somehow be able to shoot more goals, I don't understand why he can't put it in the net more often. If his salary was 4-5 millions per year would it be better for everybody?<br />The difference here is maybe 2 millions for what he may be really worth in my humble opinion. It is not as extreme as saying take him out and you have 7 millions more. If you take him out of the lineup you can't replace him with a plywood. <br />The Habs are too small up front and it doesn't help to create space. With Mac Pac, Gomez numbers have gone up. Gionta, Plek, Gomez & Cammalleri are good players but not all together!! You need to mix it up. Those guys, especially because they are so small, should play with bigger linemates to compensate. <br />I also agree that it is hard to trade Gomez but if it can be done, it would be great. In the meantime, I really don't think he's that bad and it's a big plus to see the transition game from our zone to the next.<br /><br />At least one that doesn't bash on Gomez eh? So now, where is my medication?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-85709554921092873482011-01-26T08:48:54.872-11:002011-01-26T08:48:54.872-11:00The Habs have to finish off the season as best the...The Habs have to finish off the season as best they can with what they have. In the off season the defense is where most of the work will have to take place. Markov is a big question mark but if he comes out of surgery successfully he'll be a big help. With a healthy Gorges, the Habs will be one third the way there. Subban is a definite star in the making and Gill is a possible seventh man. That leaves Hamrlik who will move on, the Wiz who has to go no matter what (he's useless) and Spacek who needs to be traded or sent to Hamilton for the last year of his contract.<br /><br />Getting some real NHL defensive help will cost major money but with Hammer leaving all the Habs need to do is pull a Redden and send Gomez to Hamilton never to return. This may seem harsh but he's not just a waste of cap space, he's pulling the team down. In the business world (the Habs are in the sports business after all), this is not acceptable and he has to pay the price for his poor play. He's made a fortune over his career and unless he is willing and capable of stepping up and playing hard, smart hockey at the level of at least a 4-5 million dollar player he has to go. If I was the GM, I would tell him the reality of his situation and set the ground rules for his staying in the league. If he's capable of playing better he has to do it. If he isn't he has to go. It's up to him as it should be. <br /><br />I would like to see Habs management take a known weakness and address it the way some other teams seem to do. The Flyers needed an upgrade on defense after the loss in the finals and Holmgren got it done right away. And his dealings with Nashville were a work of art. Hint: Shea Weber is an RFA unlikeley to want to sign long term in Nashville. Maybe something can be arranged?<br /><br />With Gomez gone and a hard working Desharnais playing in his place next season the search for the illusive big scoring center will have to continue but a younger more physical defense will go a long way to help getting more wins and moving towards being a contender.<br /><br />Great insights JT love you site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-19323555665212168782011-01-26T08:47:03.984-11:002011-01-26T08:47:03.984-11:00Very astute post. You hit all the main points. Gom...Very astute post. You hit all the main points. Gomez isnt producing any where near his cap hit and probably never will. <br /><br />People can say this was a bad deal but it's entirely possible that this team was never meant to challenge but merely to compete. Price and Subban are two pretty solid building blocks to shape a team around. Nobody expected both to be this good this early.<br /><br />Now the problem is that with Markov and a big, physical defenceman coming on board this team could challenge IF they could get better at center. The problem obviously is Gomez and his contract. It's a drag. <br /><br />The Louis Leblanc idea is iffy but guys that play well in the WJC tend to make the NHL within two years. So barring a Chipchurian fall he has a good chance.<br /><br />Dealing Gomez will require us to give up a 1st rounder and possibly a top prospect for very little in return other than cap space. Which brings me to something I never thought I would float. Gomez, Kristo and a 1st for Iginla. Crazy...I know... but maybe doable. Two prospects and an anchor for Iginla and his contract but Calgary is years away from contending.<br /><br />mbplekfan<br />@mattmaniacAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-36918193757011306192011-01-26T06:36:34.957-11:002011-01-26T06:36:34.957-11:00A lot of us said way back on July 1 two years back...A lot of us said way back on July 1 two years back. The Gomez deal was one of the worst in the history of the Habs and would handcuff this team for years. How BG could make this deal in a salary cap world is beyond me! Everyone knew what Gomez was!<br /><br />Everyone calls Burke an idiot for the Kessel deal. And in hindsight it is awful. But at least Burke was taking a chance on an unknown outcome, hoping the picks would be from a playoff team. Bob has no such excuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-9421800113163367872011-01-26T05:54:31.216-11:002011-01-26T05:54:31.216-11:00Agreed on Gomez. In fact DD looks ready to take hi...Agreed on Gomez. In fact DD looks ready to take his place this year as he is getting better and more confident every game. The obvious problem is not many teams can afford to take on $22M in cap hit over the next three years. The only way I think Gomez could move is to a team like Pheonix who are trying to save money and get to the cap floor instead of the ceiling. You would only have to pay Gomez $17.5M ( cash owed to him) in the next three years, as long as you can take the $22M cap hit. Phoenix actual expenses could be $4.5M below the floor over the three years. We might even get something decent in return.MCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-25455546302294889962011-01-26T04:41:43.760-11:002011-01-26T04:41:43.760-11:00Was about to comment but Pierre already done said ...Was about to comment but Pierre already done said it. Maybe Garth Snow would be interested in Gomez?dwgshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802983136638036023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-8064168491367992062011-01-26T03:58:52.941-11:002011-01-26T03:58:52.941-11:00Hi,
first of all, congratulations on your splendid...Hi,<br />first of all, congratulations on your splendid work covering the Habs.<br />Now, to real matters: while I 100% agree with you, we must realize that Gomez is more or less untradeable. At this point, I would be willing to trade him for nothing and spend his salary elsewhere in July, but nobody wants him. <br />So what then: Should we try to send Gomez down? Buy him out? And what will be the effect of such a gesture on the rest of the group?<br />In a recent paper, Eric Engels analyzed why he think the Habs can't afford to keep both Markov (assuming he is healthy) and The Wiz. I can't imagine how bad it would be if we were to let one of those guys go while we pay 7M$ for a 50 pts center. It would be pure disaster. With Gomez's salary we can probably afford The Wiz (let's say 4M$) plus a 3M$ winger!<br />The Gomez move is looking more and more like a terrible mistake that will haunt this team for years to come.Pierre pas pierrenoreply@blogger.com