tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post2936092207806092262..comments2023-06-01T21:15:57.354-11:00Comments on The H Does NOT Stand For Habs: Marked OffJ.T.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00012075493503316318noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-66099815852913102552011-05-14T00:36:17.949-11:002011-05-14T00:36:17.949-11:00I still believe we need size on D as well. I disag...I still believe we need size on D as well. I disagree with fans that wants to bring back both Hamrlik and Gill they are old and the HABS will be bound to their cap hit even after a buyout.<br /><br />The D core should look something like this if we want to go far in the playoffs:<br /><br />Markov - Bieksa<br />Gorges - Subban<br />Spacek - Shane O'Brien<br />Plus Nash, Weber and Diaz.<br /> <br />This will give us a mix of size and good first pass.<br />The money to resign Hamerlik, Wiz and Gill will suffice to pay O'brien (1.6 mil 2010-2011) and Bieksa (3.75 mil 2010-2011).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-57964567267277127222011-05-09T03:15:45.789-11:002011-05-09T03:15:45.789-11:00Unfortunately, the success rate for this operation...Unfortunately, the success rate for this operation with this particular doctor and his pro athlete patients is not 75% or 80% or anything close. The doctor's own published data shows that between 35% and 50% of the athletes he does this kind of repair work on end up playing two-three more years. That's it. And most of his patients are not hockey players -- hockey players probably have an even lower success rate due to the nature of the game. The problem with signing Markov and hoping for the best is that you lose the chance to sign someone else. Sure, if Markov gets hurt, his salary doesn't count aganist the cap -- but it's too late to sign a solid d-man to take his place. All I can say is that the Habs team doctors, coaches and training staff better do some VERY thorough investigative work on the state of Markov's health before anyone signs anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-18910257994770481262011-05-05T06:46:53.967-11:002011-05-05T06:46:53.967-11:00JT - Great read as always!
just a side note -- Ma...JT - Great read as always!<br /><br />just a side note -- Markov just got his Canadian citizenship last summer.. he WANTS to be here!Darcynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-34447559077476249932011-05-04T17:52:57.839-11:002011-05-04T17:52:57.839-11:00Letting Markov go scares me as 25+ teams will frot...Letting Markov go scares me as 25+ teams will froth at the mouth to sign him. He will be expensive. Sounds like he already rejected an offer recently made. We need to sign him as few others stood out on the PP this year (PK, Cammy). And the PP would improve 50% with Andre on the ice. He brings leadership that none others bring, hands down. I think his PP quarterbacking skills hinge on his creativity and ability to not get scared and nervous like most of our team these passed two years. PK will learn so much more from Gill, Markov and Spatcho. Not eager to see Hamrlik res0gn unless it is for much less. I have been critical of Hamrlik these passed two years and he did carry a big load but he is old. Wiz was a good fill in but think he will be too expensive. He's already over $3M. I won't cry if he goes. I liked Mara's physicality. Soppel was ok but he cost us a crucial goal due to his brain-fart. <br /><br />markov-gorges<br />gill-subban<br />spacek-Hamrlik (@ much less than $5.5M)<br />Weber-Wisnieskie(will be too expensive) or Mara or Soppel<br /><br />I am hoping Markov will sign for less, as will Gill as I think they are those types of people. However, I understand Markov has signed for less in the past so not sure if he will do this again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-80741482693187092102011-05-04T11:27:43.991-11:002011-05-04T11:27:43.991-11:00Since we're speculating ...
What about adding...Since we're speculating ...<br /><br />What about adding Brewer as a UFA D? <br /><br />Markov-Gorges<br />Subban-Gill<br />Brewer-Weber<br />Spacek as sub (yes he's an expensive sub)<br /><br />I like the Wiz but I think he'll garner a fatter contract on the UFA market than his actual value. Brewer is a little older and doesn't have the offensive upside so may not be as hot a commodity come UFA-season?<br /><br />I also like Hamrlik. He played well for the Habs but I simply can't imagine that he could settle for what he's likely worth here in Montreal?Mike Safoniukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07763548992587692408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-41312591684907440102011-05-04T10:15:38.799-11:002011-05-04T10:15:38.799-11:00Such a good read.
No question, sign Markov to a 3...Such a good read.<br /><br />No question, sign Markov to a 3 year deal. He is pure class, pure skill. Stay healthy Vodkov!moemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07714585748102791365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-25826275648446375102011-05-04T06:44:42.993-11:002011-05-04T06:44:42.993-11:00Sign him! Markov and PK on the PP = bad news for t...Sign him! Markov and PK on the PP = bad news for the rest of the league. Great article JT, makes understanding the surgery very clear.olematelothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12821428725375082200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-79470174478139813822011-05-04T06:15:27.432-11:002011-05-04T06:15:27.432-11:00Great Blog JT
Markov is a must sign...unless is l...Great Blog JT<br /><br />Markov is a must sign...unless is looking for 4 years at the same salary.<br /><br />Here are my option<br /><br />1 years = same salary<br />3 years = 15 million<br />4 years = 16 million<br /><br />If Montreal take a chance on him for more then 2 years, the price tag need to come down.<br /><br />Superman6868Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-27409974003849821762011-05-04T03:52:36.484-11:002011-05-04T03:52:36.484-11:00It's nice to see Markov getting the recognitio...It's nice to see Markov getting the recognition he deserves. I've thought for the last 5 years he is one of the top 5 or 6 D-men in the league. Why anyone would even consider letting him go is beyond me. Sure Subban has made great strides and has the potential to be an all-star for years to come (and I thought he was even more impressive defensively than offensively for the latter part of the season.) But you can never have too many premier defensemen.<br /><br />I thought the reason the Habs had so much trouble scoring (other than the stifling system Martin has them playing) was not that the forwards lack skill but that they weren't able to take advantage of their speed because the D was so slow to make the first pass. Markov would change that single-handedly.<br /><br />I also think they should sign Wisniewski - but only so they can trade him to recover their second round pick (or perhaps even more). I don't think his offensive upside makes up for his incredibly poor defensive play. He was regularly stripped of the puck inside the blueline. Worse than that, he is always trying to force cross-ice passes that get picked off just inside the blueline (even when he isn't under pressure). He isn't quite as bad at it as Spacek but pretty close. I counted 3 giveaways by him in one 15 second sequence in one of the Boston playoff games. <br /><br />I'm not sure why Martin has so little faith in Weber, but I would give him the chance to show what he can do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-1530271351347701102011-05-04T03:16:40.296-11:002011-05-04T03:16:40.296-11:00Mara,Sopel,Hammerlick..all 3 wont be back. Of the ...Mara,Sopel,Hammerlick..all 3 wont be back. Of the 3, I would take Mara as a cheap 7th D-man. Gill 1yr max! I think his days are # in the NHL. We need to build within, and Webber is looking good. Wiz or Markov..not both. We need to spend money upfront not all on D. Dont forget the need to sign Georges alsoMehoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-29707276701949059942011-05-04T03:14:38.415-11:002011-05-04T03:14:38.415-11:00I would let the Wiz go and give Weber the chance. ...I would let the Wiz go and give Weber the chance. Wiz 3yrs =12 mil<br /> Weber 3 yrs= 5 mil<br />Use the freed up money to sign a free agentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-731799747718296302011-05-04T02:23:09.583-11:002011-05-04T02:23:09.583-11:00Giving Wisniewski crap for lack of defense in his ...Giving Wisniewski crap for lack of defense in his own end is undermining his defensive ability altogether. If you really wanna boost the Habs, defense, i would say to get rid of Hamrlik. Yes, he has been here for awhile, but his lack of speed, and yes, lack of defense in his zone make him a viable candidate for free agency. With Wisneiwski may be an offense-oriented defenseman, put Markov, Gorges and Gil would more than make up for Wisneiski's 'lack of defensive ability in his own end. I would also consider bringing Brent Sopel back as the 6th defenseman, to even out that 3rd line. <br /><br />Markov-Gorges<br />Gill-Subban<br />Wisneiwski-SopelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-27746957914223122282011-05-04T02:10:50.507-11:002011-05-04T02:10:50.507-11:00Superb.
It's good to see such a level of det...Superb. <br /><br />It's good to see such a level of detail on the injuries and the surgery involved, when discussing what is a complex and quite crucial decision. <br /><br />I assume you went to Dr Recchi for the finer medical detail.Blue Bayounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-21576669451464846622011-05-04T01:21:19.688-11:002011-05-04T01:21:19.688-11:00Drooling :)
Cammalleri - Pleks - x
Pacioretty - X-...Drooling :)<br />Cammalleri - Pleks - x<br />Pacioretty - X- Gionta<br />A.Kost - Eller - x<br />Moen - x - White<br /><br /><br />Markov - Subban<br />Georges -Emelin <br />Gill - Weber<br />MaraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-22994885418535279982011-05-03T23:01:01.393-11:002011-05-03T23:01:01.393-11:00I also think the Habs definitely have to sign Mark...I also think the Habs definitely have to sign Markov. He's certainly amongst the NHL's best defensemen. Perhaps Wiz's numbers are comparable, but Markov is an elite defensemen in all situations while Wiz's work in his own end is adequate at best. <br /><br />Defense wins championships and Markov and Subban could make the Habs top four one of the best in the league for years to come. I love Georges and think Weber does show promise, but I am somewhat concerned about the remaining 2 spots. IMHO they should be occupied by physical defensive D-men with some edge to their game. <br /><br />For next year I would be ok with Gill (because of his mentoring ability and PK prowess) and I would do all I could to bring in Emelin (because he's the only adequate option in the system), but PG has to be on the lookout for an elite shut down man or two to give some balance to the group (Bieska, Brewer, Hannan...). If he achieves this, along with Price in goal, the habs are really set on the backend. <br /><br />Later, we'll need to bring in a big physical guy that can play for the 1st, 3rd and 4th line. Then we're in business.<br /><br />Markov - Subban<br />Emelin - Georges<br />Gill - Weber<br /><br />Cammalleri - Pleks - x<br />Paccioretty - Gomez - Gionta<br />A.Kost - Eller - x<br />Moen - x - White<br /><br />(x candidates: Cole, Laich, Glencross, Upshall, Talbot, Konopka...)Yanne L Véronneauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269427102676695789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-59723576216117174672011-05-03T22:09:25.638-11:002011-05-03T22:09:25.638-11:00@Woodvid: I deliberately disregarded the injury fr...@Woodvid: I deliberately disregarded the injury from the Grabovski hit. That injury didn't require surgery and there's no evidence that he wouldn't have been playing if the Habs had actually made it longer than four games in the playoffs. I didn't consider that out of the ordinary for any player who gets a day-to-day injury. In that case it was just that the timing was terrible.<br /><br />@Jesse: Markov & Subban for a whole season is drool-worthy.<br /><br />@Howard: Respectfully, you just CANNOT keep all three of Gill, Hamrlik and Spacek if you hope to improve the speed and agility of the defence to mesh with the style of the forwards. Since the Habs are stuck with Spacek's contract and there's a chance Gill will return for leadership and PK reasons, Hammer's got to go. I wouldn't mind the return of Wisniewski for the PP and for a 3-4 role. But there has to be an improvement in the mobility of the D, and that means all those guys can't stay.J.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00012075493503316318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-40588656061358686552011-05-03T16:37:40.841-11:002011-05-03T16:37:40.841-11:00Sorry, just saw the horrible typo. Could you pleas...Sorry, just saw the horrible typo. Could you please correct my "had" for "add"? Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-36807373273952997282011-05-03T15:52:49.013-11:002011-05-03T15:52:49.013-11:00The defense corps I would like to see next season:...The defense corps I would like to see next season:<br />Markov - Gorges<br />Subban - Gill<br />Hamrlik - Spacek<br />flex - Webber<br /><br />Hamrlik would have to be signed at a discount, say 3 million. I would give Markov a 3 yr deal for 15 million.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938273150472421140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-2138959193193861882011-05-03T15:50:07.498-11:002011-05-03T15:50:07.498-11:00Just imagine PK and Markov for a whole season!Just imagine PK and Markov for a whole season!Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01699990786576057101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-77424336005067876292011-05-03T13:30:20.969-11:002011-05-03T13:30:20.969-11:00I hope they keep him.I hope they keep him.Flinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00751432023350206246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-30871092015703232312011-05-03T11:38:20.328-11:002011-05-03T11:38:20.328-11:00Can I had somthing here about the risk factor?
Ye...Can I had somthing here about the risk factor?<br /><br />Yes he's injury-prone, but the Habs aren't exactly poor. So if, like the last two years, he gets injured, just too bad, but his salary doesn't count on the cap. So it's not like he's gonna jam the payroll.<br /><br />And like Leigh Anne said, when he's on the ice, Markov is a bargain for the 7th floor and us fans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3435571560723564995.post-10929977691685505892011-05-03T11:23:53.406-11:002011-05-03T11:23:53.406-11:00Just a small correction - the Price cut wasn't...Just a small correction - the Price cut wasn't the first in this series of injuries. The Price injury happened in the first game of that season, and I believe he missed the preceding playoffs due to a hit by that #*$%%& Grabofsky in the *last* game of that regular season. That makes 4 serious injuries in... 2 years? He's missed 2 out of the last 3 playoff seasons, and in the one he did play, was there for only 8 out of 19 games or so.<br /><br />In spite of that, I do agree with you and hope they bring him back for 2-3 years for maybe a little less than he gets now, as you suggest.Woodvidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833433610225890451noreply@blogger.com